Sunday Salon for 11 November 2007
Posted by Cottontimer on 11 Nov 2007 | Tagged as: Parenting, Reading

Does watching the movie version of a book count for Sunday Salon? Stephen and I watched the last few chapters of the BBC adaptation of Pride and Prejudice today, the one featuring Colin Firth and and Jennifer Ehle. It’s the treat I reward myself during ironing time each week. In fact, it’s worked so well that I’ve done more ironing than ever (although still not quite enough). Stephen enjoys watching as much as I do; he dances to the wonderful music and likes to mock crotchety Lady Catherine de Bourgh.
Speaking of rewards, I started Punished by Rewards: The Trouble With Gold Stars, Incentive Plans, A’s, Praise, and Other Bribes by Alfie Kohn earlier this week. Over the past year or so, I’ve struggled with the idea of bribes vs. rewards. The difference between the two still doesn’t seem clear to me and as it turns out, the end results of bribing and rewarding probably end up being pretty much the same.
According to Kohn, rewards demotivate and in fact, inspire lower performance compared to having no rewards at all. I’m still in the first part of the book so i don’t know what he’s proposing for motivation if rewards in the form of stickers, toys, praise, etc. are not effective. I know that in our case, Stephen very quickly grows to expect “surprises” for no particular reason except for “being good.” And that he will even rationalize why I’ve given him any kind of treat.
Yesterday, I pulled a lollipop out of my bag. He was delighted since he gets about 5 lollipops a year at most.
Stephen: Why do I get a lollipop? Is it because I was nice to Y yesterday?
Me: There doesn’t have to be a reason for a treat. You know what you’re supposed to do. I don’t have to give you a surprise to do it.
I don’t think he quite got it. I’m not sure I do either. But hopefully, I will by the time I finish Punished By Rewards.
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Great Facebook photo there!
I love love love Pride and Prejudice with Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle. So romantic.
Still waiting for you on Facebook, Sheila….
Yes, I sometimes reward myself by watching something on the TV when I’m ironing - something like P&P that none of the males in the household can stand. But now I’m thinking after reading the rest of your post that maybe ‘reward’ is the wrong word…maybe it is incentive…and is there, in fact, a difference?
Clare, I’m wondering wha tI should watch after P&P because it has to be something where I don’t have to watch the show as much as listen to it. Previously, I was listening to NPR podcasts but those aren’t long enough.
BTW, incentives are supposed to be verrry baaad too.
I’ll let you know what the solution is but I’m guessing I won’t like it. HA
I didn’t see that version of P&P until after I saw the film version, with Mathew MacFadyen and Kiera Knightly, and I was so disappointed. (I couldn’t even watch the whole thing.) The acting in the newer version is so much better, all around.
If you haven’t seen it, get it right now and start ironing.
Kathy, I hope you know that what you said is sacrilege!!
I know; I’ve heard that before! But go watch the new one, and then see if you can stand the old one. The mother’s performance in particular stands out as annoying, and Colin Firth plays Mr. Darcy like a sadistic psychopath, while MacFadeyn plays him with an air of vulnerability that is just so, so sweet. And Kiera does a pretty good job with Elizabeth, not like that always grinning Jennifer.
Part of is just that the BBC production is not as lush as the new one, of course. I wrote a lot about P&P on my blog when it came out, and have visited most of the locations.
LOL I thought the mother was SOOOO irritating and I wanted to slap Colin but he’s still one of my favorite actors.
Jennifer Ehle didn’t annoy me as much because she reminds me of Meryl Streep who I love.
Now I want to see the new one but I must confess that Keira Knightly scares me because she’s so bony!!
I posted a link to my post on this topic but maybe it didn’t work because it contained html?
Anyway here it is again and pardon if this is a double post:
http://whatdoiknow.typepad.com/what_do_i_know/2005/11/this_is_my_last.html