Comments on: Is it so bad to mention someone’s ethnicity? http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/ Love, Laughter, and Madness Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:39:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: someone http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-435930 someone Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:57:27 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-435930 Yes Elber, it is necessary. It is necessary to identify them so that trends are made public. If you mess up, you deserve to be called out for it. Nothing that Alister said was a lie...he wrote no false statements. Yet Fils all over rallied to chastise him for their personal hurt feelings and pride. Just because a people have a certain pride and access to the internet does NOT make them intellectual equals. Only in current writing courses is it unacceptable to mention race, sex, age, and disabilities associated with the person of topic...this is correct for mass publication. But this blog is his own and his opinion. You and your ilk have managed to scare a person into retracting his own words with fear of further Filipino Pride retribution. That being said, I would have to congratulate you on the success of your mission...to silence people that you don't want speaking the truth. Yes Elber, it is necessary.

It is necessary to identify them so that trends are made public. If you mess up, you deserve to be called out for it. Nothing that Alister said was a lie…he wrote no false statements.

Yet Fils all over rallied to chastise him for their personal hurt feelings and pride. Just because a people have a certain pride and access to the internet does NOT make them intellectual equals.

Only in current writing courses is it unacceptable to mention race, sex, age, and disabilities associated with the person of topic…this is correct for mass publication. But this blog is his own and his opinion.

You and your ilk have managed to scare a person into retracting his own words with fear of further Filipino Pride retribution. That being said, I would have to congratulate you on the success of your mission…to silence people that you don’t want speaking the truth.

]]> By: Cottontimer http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-50243 Cottontimer Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:18:44 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-50243 <b>marianne</b>: I lived for almost 5 years in Japan and took a year of intensive Japanese. I wouldn't say I was fluent, but I'm ok navigating everyday living. lol @ small and demure I'm so NOT! ;) marianne: I lived for almost 5 years in Japan and took a year of intensive Japanese. I wouldn’t say I was fluent, but I’m ok navigating everyday living.

lol @ small and demure I’m so NOT! ;)

]]> By: Cotton-Pickin’ Days » Asking People About Their Ethnicity http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-48801 Cotton-Pickin’ Days » Asking People About Their Ethnicity Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:33:29 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-48801 [...] In response to my post earlier this week about ethnicity, both Busy Mom and Liz Ditz told me to go read State of Grace who tackles it from a more personal approach. She wanted to know: [...] [...] In response to my post earlier this week about ethnicity, both Busy Mom and Liz Ditz told me to go read State of Grace who tackles it from a more personal approach. She wanted to know: [...]

]]> By: marianne http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-48408 marianne Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:27:35 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-48408 You speak Japanese too? That I didn't know. Sometimes I'd like my ethnicity, my "difference" to be acknowledged. Other times, I just wish it were invisible. On the other hand hearing ignorant, prejudiced comments from people who preface their sentence with, "I'm not racist but..." makes me want to hit them. (But of course being the small, demure Chinese-Singaporean girl living in Australia, I do not.) You speak Japanese too? That I didn’t know.
Sometimes I’d like my ethnicity, my “difference” to be acknowledged. Other times, I just wish it were invisible.
On the other hand hearing ignorant, prejudiced comments from people who preface their sentence with, “I’m not racist but…” makes me want to hit them. (But of course being the small, demure Chinese-Singaporean girl living in Australia, I do not.)

]]> By: Cottontimer http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-46374 Cottontimer Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:44:19 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-46374 <b>Busy Mom</b>: Thanks for the link. What a great post. I'll have to go leave a comment and share some of my own crazy ethnicity-related stories. <b>Steve</b>: You and Kendra must just laugh your butts off all the time. So funny. By the way, Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese. Offended yet? :D <b>Elber</b>: Did you see some of the other comments Alister got? Sheesh! I'd like to go punch them for him. ahhaa Who knew I was so violent. <b>Liz</b>: Thanks! Busy Mom shared it with us earlier but that is one awesome post. <b>Andrew</b>: Hi! Thanks for the comment. In some ways, I think it's a shame that we're so amorphous online. Sure, it might lesson stereotyping but it also erases some of our most unique characteristics. So many people think I'm a man at first that I wonder what happens when they find out I'm a woman. Something must change in their perception of me. I just wonder what and how. I like people to know all of me, not just assume I'm like them, ya know? Busy Mom: Thanks for the link. What a great post. I’ll have to go leave a comment and share some of my own crazy ethnicity-related stories.

Steve: You and Kendra must just laugh your butts off all the time. So funny. By the way, Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese Chinese. Offended yet? :D

Elber: Did you see some of the other comments Alister got? Sheesh! I’d like to go punch them for him. ahhaa Who knew I was so violent.

Liz: Thanks! Busy Mom shared it with us earlier but that is one awesome post.

Andrew: Hi! Thanks for the comment. In some ways, I think it’s a shame that we’re so amorphous online. Sure, it might lesson stereotyping but it also erases some of our most unique characteristics. So many people think I’m a man at first that I wonder what happens when they find out I’m a woman. Something must change in their perception of me. I just wonder what and how. I like people to know all of me, not just assume I’m like them, ya know?

]]> By: Andrew Wong http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-46364 Andrew Wong Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:35:57 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-46364 When you say you're English, do you mean the country England or the language English? :) Personally speaking, one of the best things about the Internet and online communities to me is the way that the ethnicity filter doesn't necessarily cloud other people's judgement of your views - ie they think you're one of them, until you pull the rug from under their feet. When you say you’re English, do you mean the country England or the language English? :)

Personally speaking, one of the best things about the Internet and online communities to me is the way that the ethnicity filter doesn’t necessarily cloud other people’s judgement of your views - ie they think you’re one of them, until you pull the rug from under their feet.

]]> By: Liz Ditz http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45980 Liz Ditz Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:41:13 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45980 Grace Davis is also talking about this issue: <a href="http://gracedavis.typepad.com/i_am_dr_lauras_worst_nigh/2007/03/whats_your_nati.html" rel="nofollow">Internet, is OK to Ask Someone About Their Ethnicity?</a> opening grafs follow: <i>gain, I have a bunch of stuff to ask you, Dear Internet. This time it's a big topic. As touched upon briefly in previous posts, I am kindly requesting that you consider and respond to my questions on the often touchy business of asking a person about their racial background. You may provide your answers in the comments section or use the trackback feature to your own blog post on the subject. Target responders are Americans and Canadians, though this topic may be relevant for the British and Europeans, any country or region where power in the culture is limited to Anglo whites.</i> Grace Davis is also talking about this issue:

Internet, is OK to Ask Someone About Their Ethnicity?

opening grafs follow:

gain, I have a bunch of stuff to ask you, Dear Internet. This time it’s a big topic.

As touched upon briefly in previous posts, I am kindly requesting that you consider and respond to my questions on the often touchy business of asking a person about their racial background. You may provide your answers in the comments section or use the trackback feature to your own blog post on the subject.

Target responders are Americans and Canadians, though this topic may be relevant for the British and Europeans, any country or region where power in the culture is limited to Anglo whites.

]]> By: Elber http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45959 Elber Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:14:13 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45959 Hi Cottontimer! Don't get your pants in a bunch about the caps - I guess it was a one way for me to break the tension of the rest of my comment. I really didn't take offense with what Alister posted and I told him so in a comment. I ragged on him for the caps because I was nitpicking. I agree with you though that he got dumped on for something that wasn't intended to be racist. On the mention of Filipino, like I said before, I think the issue was that he repeated it several times. Like you, I wouldn't have batted an eye either with <b>one</b> mention of my nationality. On top of this, it was just to tempting to rag on him about the caps. ;) On your last point - Alister got off lucky, didn't he. I'd hate to the object of any woman's ire. Hi Cottontimer!

Don’t get your pants in a bunch about the caps - I guess it was a one way for me to break the tension of the rest of my comment.

I really didn’t take offense with what Alister posted and I told him so in a comment. I ragged on him for the caps because I was nitpicking. I agree with you though that he got dumped on for something that wasn’t intended to be racist.

On the mention of Filipino, like I said before, I think the issue was that he repeated it several times. Like you, I wouldn’t have batted an eye either with one mention of my nationality. On top of this, it was just to tempting to rag on him about the caps. ;)

On your last point - Alister got off lucky, didn’t he. I’d hate to the object of any woman’s ire.

]]> By: Steve James http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45781 Steve James Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:44:33 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45781 you need to watch how many times you are throwing the word "Chinese" around in your post. Someone might get offended. Sounds like some people have their "pants" in a wad. you need to watch how many times you are throwing the word “Chinese” around in your post. Someone might get offended.

Sounds like some people have their “pants” in a wad.

]]> By: Busy Mom http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45780 Busy Mom Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:43:11 +0000 http://www.cottontimer.com/2007/03/21/is-it-so-bad-to-mention-someones-ethnicity/#comment-45780 Did you happen to see the post Grace Davis wrote the other day? http://gracedavis.typepad.com/i_am_dr_lauras_worst_nigh/2007/03/whats_your_nati.html Oh, and, I do know how to pronounce your name. Did you happen to see the post Grace Davis wrote the other day?
http://gracedavis.typepad.com/i_am_dr_lauras_worst_nigh/2007/03/whats_your_nati.html

Oh, and, I do know how to pronounce your name.

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